tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4141439552769574800.post832513726772647811..comments2023-06-19T04:59:02.417-05:00Comments on Praying Twice: Mmmm Carcinogens...Daciahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01835636106102322421noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4141439552769574800.post-3870764339988890542011-01-22T12:41:11.545-06:002011-01-22T12:41:11.545-06:00Thanks for the info Chad, glad you are looking mor...Thanks for the info Chad, glad you are looking more into the topic, I would love to hear what you find. <br /><br />My objection is certainly moral foremost, you are right. But I should clarify one thing, I wasn't supporting the tobaco industries, and obviously smoking and taking the Pill aren't exactly the same thing. I was just trying to point out that there are similarities in many ways. For instance, the industry (not just docs but pill manufactuers and companies like Planned Parenthood) push the Pill on women and never even mention the natural, safe alternative. Also they are both taken for social reasons. Smoking to "look cool" or because their parent's smoke, and the pill so they can have sex with whomever they want whenever. It is more similar to smoking in the 50's cause everyone smoked and thought it was fine even though I'm sure there were warnings and whistle blowers about it. I think as the years go by, we will see more negative effects from yrs of using the pill, like infertility in addition to cancers. I would also argue that the terrible secondary effects of taking the Pill is divorce/broken families, and sexual promiscuity but this is certainly harder to prove.<br /><br />I can see that I'm rambling, I hope that all makes sense.Daciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01835636106102322421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4141439552769574800.post-1720113576128513602011-01-22T09:03:31.235-06:002011-01-22T09:03:31.235-06:00One difference between breast cancer and lung canc...One difference between breast cancer and lung cancer is the level of impact. The link notes the estimate that 40k women will die of breast cancer in 2010. (It omits any estimate of how many of those cases will be caused by contraceptive pills.) Compare that to about 70k for lung cancer (about 80% of which are caused by smoking), or over twice that including men. <a href="http://lungcancer.about.com/od/whatislungcancer/a/lungcancerwomen.htm" rel="nofollow">source</a><br /><br />Another factor is the age of the information. Doctors do not bravely fight secular conspiracies so much as they report their research and sign occasional book deals (using more or less hysterics, depending on their dispositions). Evidence about the risks of smoking started to accumulate even before the pill was invented, and consequently had more time to verify and socialize. You are doing your part to socialize now, but as for whether the medical community deems the pill "perfectly safe," I will quote from your source: "Many of the dangers of the pill are listed on the package insert."<br /><br />A third difference is that smoking (similar to, say, automobile exhaust) imposes external risks. That is morally relevant, and given your apparent preemption of the doctors, the objection seems more moral than scientific. You mentioned "devouring plagues," but smoking also has secondary effects (addiction, moodiness, etc.) which are equally cause for social stigma. In either case the secondary effects are difficult if not impossible to quantify.<br /><br />Still I did learn something, and following the reference links lead me to more fascinating <a href="http://monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Monographs/PDFs/index.php." rel="nofollow">research</a>. Thanks.Churlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4141439552769574800.post-38254361929618754012011-01-22T06:31:43.419-06:002011-01-22T06:31:43.419-06:00agree, agree! moral issues aside, i just don'...agree, agree! moral issues aside, i just don't know how people can put all those hormones into their body every day--it totally freaks me out. plus, hormones affect so much more than *just* fertility.Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08641509566095727946noreply@blogger.com